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Michael's avatar

Context is EVERYTHING. Great article.

Mark Ramm's avatar

Thank you! I appriciate the support.

Maggie Yuan's avatar

Thank you for this prophetic and timely article!

Mark Ramm's avatar

Thank you. After writing about Hegseth and the Ice Director in Minneapolis who is also a pastor I felt compelled to try to articulate the opposing tradition.

Amy Wright's avatar

Love these Second Sermons. Keep them coming!

Eric Folkerth's avatar

One more thing...thank you for including what you call "The Nazarene Manifesto."

Love it...I often say this is "Jesus' Mission Statement."

I also remind folks how they tried to kill! The very first time he opened his mouth, they tried to kill him. That's a consistent theme, all the way through...they just eventually get that job done.

Eric Folkerth's avatar

First, thanks for your comment on my post...which led me here to this brilliant post.

This is far deeper than I went, and I appreciate it immensely.

Did you create that graphic comparing the two "kingdoms" and their identifical language?

Because that alone is worth the price of admission here...as is every word....thank you.

Mark Ramm's avatar

Yea, I created that graphic, because I thought it might tell the story more clearly than my whole paragraph on the subject.

I would argue that in some ways you went deeper. I did not menton Borg or Crossan, and appreciate the quotes you used in your piece. Your post and mine I think work together to tell the story in a more complete way than either does alone. So ,thank you, it is a true gift when someone who wrote something I admire finds the same in my work.

Eric Folkerth's avatar

You’re covering a lot of ground in very crisp, clear language.